Jay-Z disses JESUS CHRIST on Empire State of Mind

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Nothing New

I'm glad you put this foolishness on blast Pastor! Jay- Z has made claims on being a "5 percenter". He calls himself Hov, short for HOVA, Short for JAHOVAH, but to whitewall it, calls himself Jay- Z, like X-mas.For those of you that aren't aware of the 5 perecenters, GOOGLE IT! WIKIPEDIA! Its pretty much the proclaimation of being your own God. Do your research. Pray for Jay. P4CM!


jay z

i honestly feel what youre saying about this topic! ppl act like they are scared to put this man on blast about his wickedness but dont get me wrong im not perfect but i aint dissin Jesus neither. Ive been doin a lot of research on "HOVA" lol, i knew there were something in me that said dont listen to this man; but trust me he isnt the only one out there that talks about Jesus. I believe he sold his soul for riches. he also stated that he never picked up a holy bible a day in his life!!! i mean come on man. but i dont really get in dept with this topic b/c i dont like to argue over religon, but i know that Jesus is my savior. thanks for your time.


i just looked at the lyrics,

i just looked at the lyrics, its easier that way. Yeah pretty shocking


i saw the video and and it

i saw the video and and it seems like he's just talkin about a young girl???


RE: JayZ disses Jesus Christ....

WOW...............You know what; I listened to this song alot of times and never even heard those lyrics until your blog made me pay closer attention! I'm dissapointed in his choice of words....I am a child & fan of Jesus Christ...& I love his words way more than JayZ's!!!  It sad because I think as an adult I should have paid more attention to what I was bumping my head to.

Honestly, I still enjoy JayZ music...& I know ....even if he doesn't know...That all his blessings & talents flow from Jesus Christ! I hope that somebody will address his poor choice of words in the main stream media & put him on Super Blast!

~~~Chemika


I wish i could agree with

I wish i could agree with you when u said, "...That all his blessings & talents flow from Jesus Christ!" this may not be true. The devil can offer riches, fame, and all if we choose to bow down a worship him and this first starts by rejecting Jesus. so dont be mistaken of where his"blessing come from". also this is not a case of "poor choice of words", but intentional and trully a rebellion due to his hate for God. This is not the first time he spoke of Jesus like this... I pray God may give u a pure ear to seek music that only glorifies GOD....not those that dishonor or even is just nuetral. God has asked ALL true believers to be seprate from the World and to stand out...No MATTER WHAT....STAND OUT AND LEAVE THE OLD THINGS BEHIND. Be only a fan of Jesus.  God does not want to share ur heart with anything else. God bless u. Amen


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Since coming to the Lord 5

Since coming to the Lord 5 years ago, I really haven't listened to any secular hip-hop however, when I saw Pastor Cox's video I actually went to the song and listened to what he was saying. It's crazy, because Jay-Z gives props to all these false god worshipers (Afrikaan Bambata -- found of the hip hop "religion", Bob Barley - avid Rasta, Haile Selassie worshiper, even to Catholics who worship the "Virgin" Mary. However, he has no props for the King of Kings, and says that He doesn't save and life starts after the church ends! Blasphemy!!!
I saw Pastor Cox's video posted on facebook and some people were saying that Jay-Z was just using it as a metaphor for the girl -- but even the metaphor is OUT OF PLACE!!! JESUS CHRIST SAVES THE LOWEST OF THE LOW -- so even if Jay-Z was saying it specifically for the girl in his video it goes against one of my favorite scriptures in the Holy Bible:
1 Timothy 1:15 - Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Jesus Christ came in the world to save sinners - of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinner, Christ Jesus might desplay his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life.

I pray that Jay-Z truly repents from his sin, and serves Christ because he is doing exactly what the devil did -- trying to steal glory from the Almighty God!!! And like the devil - who had no opportunity to repent -- he is headed towards eternal condemnation and suffering of the wrath of God.


He better do

He better do something...everything he has been blessed with is from the Lord through Jesus Christ!  Whether he believes it or not.  I was always a fan, but I am done and will pray for him.  Horrible.


And who is Jay Z?

Okay this is totally weird....

So what Jay Z said those things?? I'm not suprised....because really....who is Jay Z? he's a human rapper....is he more powerful than the name of Christ? Can the name of Christ not withstand persecution? Jay Z isn't robbing Christ of anything. If the legacy of Christ has survived the graphic betrayal and beating you described in this video, and if His name is still glorified after hanging on a cross butt naked, then surely the words of Jay Z is not going to stop the mission of Christ. Jay Z doesn't have the power nor the authority to rob Christ or christians of anything. He's speaking from his own dark heart in this song...so pray for him.

This is nothing for us as Christians to be alarmed about. The bible talked about people denying Christ and the spirit of the anti-Christ being in the world, so why are we acting so surprised?  Jay Z has never confessed Christ.....It doesn't matter if this song is #1 in all of the music charts in the world, Christ will always be lifted and exalted...This doesn't change anything.

Jay Z doesn't represent Christianity. He never has.

this is not a surprise...It's time to pray

 

 


Well Stated!!!

Well Stated!!!


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Yo this video ticked me

Yo this video ticked me off...He's right "Where are the real christians at?" When we gonna stand up? When are we gonna set a standard as followers of our Lord Jesus Christ? not of doctrine, not for man, but according to the word of God....When are we gonna stop just believing or taking every low blow. See you can't understand how low of a blow this is unless you have a relationship with God....Jay-Z is flat out denying, tearing down, spitting on the foundation that redeems us. We should be dead for the sins that we have committed, but because of his precious blood. We have a right to be upset with Jay-z who is carrying the spirit of the antichrist and i don't like it. My Jesus who gave it all for me & you deserves the highest praise ..It is time to pray church because Jesus is soon to come...


Not surprised...

Jay-Z is a freemason. Do your research. What Jay-Z said is exactly what he meant. Life beginning when 'the church' ends is not just a stab at God's people it's a full on assault. If anything this song should inspire us young believers in Christ to hold fast to our faith and ask God for the wisdom to speak to those with ears to hear. We really are witnessing spiritual warfare, and clearly Jay-Z's lyrics will open the door for other secular 'artists' to further blaspheme God's name.This shouldn't surprise you, at least not anymore. If tomorrow Jay-Z in an interview comes out and says he has lost all faith in Christianity how many young people would dismiss his music? How many would give excuses for him? How many would sympathize with him? How many would lose their own faith, or shut themselves off from the potential of being saved?

Most young people really don't KNOW God, and already live Godless lives. If Jay-Z (the most idolized secular rapper alive) makes it a trend to bash Christianity well then what can we expect from the rest of the industry? Colossians 2:8- See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy or empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.


In re: Jay-Z disses Jesus Christ on Empire State of Mind

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for informing us about this atrocious thing Jay Z said in his song/video!  I am livid!!!!

How dare anyone say these things!? ...."And Jesus can't save you, life starts when the church ends."  What is that!? And the youth; who are easily swayed, are hearing it and are being led to hell like lambs to slaughter!!!!   It hurts my soul to know that people will be going to hell, but to know that people like Jay Z are making it easier for the enemy, just horifies me ( to say the least.)  I will be posting your video on myspace and facebook to spread the word/warning.  People need to know, parents need to know what their children are listening to.  May God continue to bless and keep you Pastor and P4CM.  We are God's soldiers.  As we say in spanish, "Pa'lante" It means "onward" or "forward"

Much love and respect... Carmen


I have been a follower for

I have been a follower for christ since I can remeber,and now that I am a teen to be honest its not that easy to be your own person now a days.I remeber singing along to this song on the radio weeks ago.Its funny how we don't hear these things when they are singing it.I had to listen carefully a few times to actually understand what JayZ was saying.Now that I found out about this I take the time to apologize to my lord and savior Jesus Christ because if I had known of this I would not even had sing the song in the first place.I'm not going to lie sometimes I wake up in the morning praying to God to make the rapture take place already.My life is not easy and high school is not making things any easier,but God sacrificed so much for me.I'm not what you call a "Perfect Christian" but each day I do the best I can to please God.And If it means to not go buy a JayZ album anymore then I will do it.I don't no about anyone else but lets show the world what God has to offer.


woooo fire!!

That was a great video pastor cox!! every where I have seen it posted this last week is amazing! It's like holding up a banner saying NO God deserves GLORY Smiling amen. and sweeet break down chop chop aka La' aja!


Emptiness

If he thinks he is God, why does he acknowledge the awesome Name of the only God (YHWH) ? LOL! Like the pastor in Miami who said he was Jesus, then turned around and said he was the antichrist (little confused?)

 I think Jay-Z will repent when he understands that he is going to be utterly destroyed for eternity unless he repents - and with all the praying being done for him, it may be sooner than you think...


Response to 'And Who is Jay Z'

I've never cared for the persona of Jay-Z and this confirmed why.  We as Christians should be righteously angry about these types of situations because every day the enemy uses willing stooges to reach our young people.  True, the work of GOD will go forth and HIS Word will not return to HIM void, however, just like you said, whenever someone sings those lyrics, they're basically declaring that 'Jesus can't save you' and 'life begins when the church ends.'  We have young people headed straight to hell because no one will stand up in righteous anger against people in influential positions such as Jay-Z.  It's time we 'Christians' start being the people of action we were called to be and not silent protesters.  Thanks, Pastor Cox, for standing and speaking out.


I Pray everyone hears u pastor cox, and Jesus' ppl

Pastor Cox, I hear exactly wat ur saying man, like me and ma girl are new at being saved and we praying n tryin hard to rep His name.. and when i saw ur video i felt da same way i wanted to show ma brother who studies the word and is in theology so i thought he would view it like i would and get really offended wen he hears jay z say that really stupid and unwanted statement about Jesus... but, he says tha same thing that ppl have been sayin like " u dont look at the context" n blah blah blah... so i pray more n more ppl can see ur video cuz God will always expose the devils work.. and God will always be with u, so i proclaim victory in this battle in Jesus name... God Bless  Pastor Cox


Setting it straight

You took the words right out of my mouth. I've been trying to hip cats to the game for a minute now but you layed it all out. We needed that. You are 100% correct and you put it down real smooth. Peace.


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Where have I been. I hear

Where have I been. I hear people driving around playing this song and all I hear every time is "Gay Street", and blahblahblahblah blah blah. I knew about his past blasphemy remarks, but I never paid attention to this song. Thank You Lord for Pastor Cox.

See Down Their Where Biggie And Pac At Really Is Hot Jack, So The Boy hov Really Should Stop That. I Know All He Talk Is Trash, But Christ, Who Can Halt His Wrath?  

A Vessel of God


my thoughts on the video

everything that you said i feel is so correct but the only thing i think about is ,most christians probably dont sit there and listen word by word to jay-z songs or maybe they do. Its just personally i didn' t relise it until i saw this video so in order for people to take a stand against it they have to be aware and if  they are then thats a huge problem.


Jay Z

First up, thanks for the vid... first time i heard ya and def. not the last.

As for Jay-Z... he joins a long list of celebs and self-inflamed egos and posers who in their carnal desire for ultimate recognition attempt to stand their puny image next to our Saviour Jesus Christ.

These cats are all about raising their 'image' as high as possible in the earth... so there' no suprise Jay-Z try's to stand next to The Christ... cause there is no one more famous than He!

Jay-Z wants fame and the only person higher than all is JC!!!

hahahaha

Someone tell Jay-Z he only got a few more years to speak his mind... but JC The Christ will continue to speak long after Jay-Z is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Jay-Z I pray that your mind be blessed by the revelation that is The Christ. He conquered hell and death... you however sell records.

Wake Up Z... maybe change your tune to Jay-C


JAY-Z disses Jesus

yeah man, Jay Z, Beyonce, Kwane West, & Rihana are some devoted devil worshippers.  Straight up Luciferian!!!!  Check out "Jay-Z deception" on you tube. it further goes into his masterplan to make Satan lord.  Pastor Cox keep running the race, you are not by your self

 

Joshua Toomer

Louisville, KY


I agree

Frankly, I feel that the Jay-Z verse is an open and shut case.  I agree 100% with Pastor Cox HOWEVER perhaps Christians should be rejoicing that Jay-Z has put Jesus on blast or did you really believe that the extent of Christian living was reading the Bible, going to church on Sunday and 'good works?'

Before Christ returns certain events have to play out.  False prophets will put Jesus on blast and - for a time - they will have wide influence.  It is hard to imagine any other time in the last 1500 years where an influential person could send such a global message without a response (in most cases violent).  This highlights how far the Church has fallen from grace IMHO.  


Jay Z

When John Lennon said the Beatles were the greatest thing since Jesus Christ, he was killed a few days later.

When King Herod proclaimed in the Book of Acts he was God, he dropped dead.

Jay Z is playing with fire.  I pray he repents before its too late.

Thanks Pastor Cox for your boldness I'm with you 100%.

Terri


Taking Heed

I will be addressing this with my youth group soon...thank you for calling it out for what it was.


how can chicago join!!!!

 WE ALREADY LOVE AN IN LOVE WITH GOD. WE BEEN SOLD OUT! WE JUST NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN OUR STREET'S. OUR YOUTH AH LISTEN THEY JUST NEED 2 SEE IT DAILY! I CAN SHOW YOU SO MUCH ABOUT THAT YOU TALK ABOUT WITH JAY Z FIRST HAND  (FOR REAL!) PLEASE GET WITH ME ASAP PLEASE PLEASE WE NEED CHRIST FOR IT'S 2 LATE!

 


I cant beileve it

I had no idea jay-z had said this untill today ,i just want to THANK GOD for the work he is doin in the P4CM MINISTRY

i dnt no if this song has come out in england but its so ovibs he would say sutin like dat he a dodgy character. but i dnt no wot gives him the right to say such a thing and offended christains. NO WAY WOULD THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY OR THE GAY COMMUNITY OR WHOEVER TAKE THAT KIND OF RUBBISH BUT ARE CHRISTIAN SITTIN THERE.

America is suppose to be a 'christain' nation, it is ovib dat those big worldwide known churches are chosing to ignore this the motives are not in order.

THANK U P4CM FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION;


Reply to the ones who defend Jay Z







Just because you say Jay Z is not a theologian and is not meaning the text in a historic representation of the truth; does not mean he is right in what he has said.  If a man worships Satan because he knows not Christ does not make him innocent of treason against God.  Because Jay Z is ignorant to his lyrics impacts does not make him innocent of the results.  When people listen to music they hear pieces of verses and use that as contextual truth.  They do not dissect the song into bits and pieces.  Just as if you were speaking in public, if you say something that can be taken in wrong context most will believe that is what is meant.  God gives us all minds to sensor ourselves and say what can only be taken as it is meant to be taken, the English language has lots more words and phrases that can convey what Jay Z was meaning, but if a man says something in court (life) that can be taken the wrong way, then the judgement can mean Death, simply because they chose not to think.

 


jay z

 so we all can agree that jay-z is an anti christ. and there are other reasons that back this statement up. Look at the good girl gone bad album. rihanna is  singing about being raped by the demon rain man and has a video showing her getting raped by the rain man. then she has a song just after that called disturbia, which is the state that your in while under control of a demon or possessor.  the video for that song showes just that. the hook to the song is a chant to get possessed by this demon. so if we just look at his track record, he has never been anything but an antichrist. so to all of those christians who have been deceived by his treachery, remember that satan took 1/3 of the angels with him when he fell from heaven, so the devil can be very convincing, even to the strongest of minds. be careful who you let into your mind body and spirit


yo whats goods its debaron

yo whats goods its debaron hughes from greenwood s.c holding it down. but what i really dont undersatnd why chrstians are listening to his music? i mean pastor coxs has the calling to know what the world is doing so he can preper the christian world. i feel when pastor coxs says you cant put jesus christ and not being able to save in the same sentence. im wacthing the 2nd video and when you keep saying what he said over and over your speaking thing into life. but why do we as chrsitian peer into the wrold to see whats going on we are in it but not of it. how can you think he is talking about something other than jesus?, i mean he point blank called his name out? by saying he might be trying to talk about something else or that pastor coxs misunderstood him to me is saying that you didnt care that GOD died for you that he was beaten for you. you just saying that was all piont less. he said for this reason came i. what reason? the reason to save they world so we can have life in him!!!! so how can we have life when his place that he calls the church if the church is gone? look i just feel like pastor coxs on the 1st video im just so mad that one the christian world didnt filp about this. and that he did this so i just got to walk man. peace p4cm love you fam.


THIS IS GREAT

 This is a truly great comment about the song.

I really liked the song but I did not like that particular verse where he talks about Jesus, because I am a follower of Jesus Christ myself. After I've heard the song, I went to ask to my friend who is not a christian that loves Jay-z, if jay-z really literally meant what he was saying. And my friend told me that No, what he meant is that spiritual life ends the church ends and the real life starts when the church ends. But the funny thing about his comment is that I believe spiritual life is a real life and there is no other way that Jay-z could mean other things when he said "Jesus can't save you". I did not tell my friend what I thought because I was confused but jay-z did mean what he said and I know that is not true!!!! I will make sure I spread out Pastor Cox's words to my friends!

 


lovelifefaithful's picture

Music

Music sometimes gets overlooked when one turns to Christ. It is the one thing that can be listened to quietly on an Ipod after church in the car. It can be in the commercial between your favorites shows. The devil gets attacked on his so called BIG THINGS-homosexuality, drinking, fornication...but my dear friends the so called small things are the ones that can just trip you up...Music. It doesn't have to be blasting from a car, or a night club...it's so easy to let the words...."Jesus can't save you" slip through your ears...and then you wonder why your soul just does not feel right. Mr. Tye had a song...listening to unGodly music and claim to praise the Lord. Christians let us be active and stand up for Christ. Put down the [music]...that only gives you temporary satifaction... a good dance, and pick up the music that uplifts. I am not saying that if a song does not have Jesus in it don't listen but if that song goes against what Jesus is saying in his word than it must not be listened to. Whenever I hear a song about my FATHER, my heart melts and some secular music that I with caution listen to...i.e Elliot Yamin-it just makes me have a great dance and can never speak to me as to a song like "I TRUST YOU [lord]".

Peace and many blessing my fellow sisters and brothers.

Love life faithful


THANK YOU JESUS!!! That is

THANK YOU JESUS!!! That is exactly what i was saying from day one when this song was out in public....THE CHURCH OF CHRIST NEDDS TO GET IT 2GETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Respect given to jz

My respect for jz is greater than most, because he is not hiding behind the scenes like alot of other artist, other famous, and non famous people.  The fact that he speaks very bodly about how he feels towards JESUS and those who follow him, should let us followers of Christ not listen to his music, nor by his products.  With much research you will be surpised to see all who really denouce JESUS'S name.  Alot of these same people who denounce the SON'S name we support by buying their product, watching their tv shows, and eating their food.  We might stop listening to jz's music but continuing to by his products (even products jz invest in) we still support him in some way.  There is alot of other non followers of CHRIST that need to be exposed for Christians sake, especially those who have their hand involved in some churchs.  Respect to jz for keeping it real to what he believes in and exposing himself.  Now Christians can we keep it real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

In no way am I giving support for jz, if some of you readers get confused.

 

 


Finally!!

i don't know how to thank you! though i am a new comer to this website, i have found much inspiration and encouragement. really, words cannot even begin to describe how i have been feeling the past 7-8 months, but this video...this video just brought everything i have been feeling to the surface! to be quite honest had you not approached the issue at had, your credibility would have went down the drain. you put on blast many issues that churches all over north america are dealing with...secular christians. ones who identify with the enemies of Christ more than the Christ they say they follow. i find myself to be alone in may ways because of taking a stand such as the one you have taken. there is absolutely NO reasonable context to put the line in the way he did. point blank it was offensive and it was meant the way it was stated. from a struggling warrior trying to keep up the good fight of faith, i thank you for both video posts. thank you for hosting a website to edify the body as a whole. because God is who he is, and his character is one that loves redemption i see this as a trailblazer ministry for things to come. keep up the good work and stand firm! you are supported by your brothers and sisters here in fresno, california.


LaRone4Jesus's picture

Terrible

The sad thing is that most secular music does nothing but glorify everything that the Lord hates. Its a terrible thing that the music that our kids love is this very music. I remember my first album was warren g. I was like 11. I was singing stuff that I had no idea about. From women to drugs. As a result I trained my brain to love those things and as so lost i my life before I got saved. it took drugs jail and many loses. Music is one of  the enemies greatest weapons


JAY-Z CHANGED HIS LYRICS

 

It went from Jesus "couldn't" save you...to..."If Jesus payin Lebron, I'm paying Dwayne Wade"...

I used to live in San Diego and now I live in NY. So, I knew I would hear that song constantly and New Yorkers would praise it ( most of them ) not even thinking twice what He says in two lines. Today, I heard the song again and I didn't want to hear it but my Spirit had me stand still and hear it. I knew then I would be listening to the words...Well, Jay-Z changed his lyrics! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat! So, I did my research to see if I heard correctly. http://www.dasouth.com/news/24-news/2291-jay-z-alters-controversial-qjesus-cant-save-youq-line-on-qempire-state-of-mindq-feat-alicia-keys Visit that site which entails the lines! He honestly heard our feedback! I support P4CM because I follow and serve an awesome God!!! But STILL Jay-Z is not saved...You know a Christian when you see one with their lifestyle! The devil is a liar. Even he did change his words, Jay-Z still needs prayer! Satan influences many...We gotta keep being bold in Christ!!! So now, it's, "Jesus payin LeBron"...Still take his name out! If you're not bringing people to Christ and sending the Good News message...Seems like Jay-Z doesn't want to expose any more than what's already out there! So yeah that song for me was cool until i heard those words...My Spirit was not having it-So you know, we as Christians know a nonChristian when we witness one! Gopd bless to all and keep standing for CHRIST!!!!!!

 

 


Jay-Z

It is what it is, This is not the first song Jay-Z has with hints that he is a satanist. He should watch what he’s say cause there is a God and Jesus does Save!!! All Praise and Glory to our LORD JESUS CHRIST, KING ABOVE ALL KINGS!!!! Church….. 


Test The Spirits

Yea i heard some stuff about this J-z  1 john 4:2  Hearby know ye the spirit of  God every spirit that confesseth thatt jesus Christ is come in the flesh IS OF GOD. aint no if..aint no but aint no maybe...we all know what this guy is saying to us. we all know which god he's serving. I could go in to more especially with all his signs and symbols that mean something else..but look closely you will see what hes about and what hes doing....Jesus Christ Saves! and he is the one true living God.


Jay-Z The Anti-Christ himself

These are the last days! Nothing much to ponder the works of the devil!


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